Well, Apple did it again, in my opinion. Safari looks like a true winner to me -- been using it for about 19 minutes now, and already in love. The only thing I miss is tabbed browsing. Ohwell, I guess it'll be coming up. ;)
Posted by slava at 02:30 PM
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I reported lack of tabbed browsing as a bug. :-)
Posted by: Erik J. Barzeski on January 7, 2003 3:02 PMYes, this has a new ".ape" module written all over it....tabbed browsing is a must!
Posted by: Kent Corser on January 7, 2003 4:57 PMHeh, you two aren't the only ones..... I found about 4 pages that had problems in Safari, so I begged for tabbed browsing at the bottom of each bug report.
I have to say, I'm really loving Safari. The speed combined with the fact that Apple's developers are the kings of minimalistic apps (rich in features, but not unnessecarily bloated) makes it a winner all around, and it's still only a beta. Woot!
It looks pretty impressive, but I'm pissed that it has the same problem as IE for Windows: it improperly displays a CSS 1-pixel dotted border as a dashed border. This is evident even on Unsanity.org, and it's wreaking havoc on the new version of my site that I'm testing now.
Posted by: Scottish on January 8, 2003 1:12 AMmy safari wishlist contains two things: tabbed browsing and css on form buttons :-/
Posted by: filo on January 8, 2003 3:25 AMYep! A great browser... The speed is good, but nothing too dramatic compared to Chimera. But to be honest, I still prefer Chimera, until the following is fixed:
TABBED BROWSING... (A Must!)
Unbelievable... I'll add a "me too" to the people who reported No Tabbed Browsing as a bug on instinct. Heh.
Posted by: Rob W on January 8, 2003 2:25 PMWhat I found really odd about Safari (and, yes I reported it) was that even on Apple's own site, the top toolbar isn't centered, it's shifted over about 60-100 pixels to the right. Does anyone else see that? And, my own site (http://www.revmitcz.com) is supposed to have a centered flash file - but it's all screwy looking in Safari. Load that URL up in Chimera and Safari, you'll see. Not to mention, flash in Safari is SLOOOOOOOW. And, when loading things on a page like a quicktime movie, there's no way to tell how far it has to go, how fast it's loading - nothing. Cause there's no status bar. Maybe it's all petty complaining - I have high hopes for a new browser, right now I use Chimera - but I'd much rather use something else, something apple.
Posted by: Mitcz on January 8, 2003 3:23 PMThere *is* a status bar - WHEN you turn it on. :) It's under the "View" menu.
Posted by: Someone on January 9, 2003 12:57 AMI'm amazed at all the people who missed the Status Bar. Shows no one ever explores an application when they get it.
There's also a Home and Font Size buttons there. Wish we could rearrange them though. I tried hacking the Nibs but it puts them back when the app's launched. So that was a no go.
Posted by: Jason Anderson on January 11, 2003 12:56 AMAh, Mitcz, you saw that centering problem too. My site has a navigation panel at the bottom of each page. It's a nested table whose "titlebar" is three cells whose outer ones are the same width. Or they're coded to be, but Safari makes the left one wider than the right, throwing the centering off.
I hope they fix it.
Posted by: Walter Ian Kaye on January 13, 2003 6:47 AMI too reported (naturally) the lack of tabbed browsing as a bug. I'm really hooked on Chimera, although I can see the benefits of using something Apple. But until some bugs are fixed, Chimera is my browser of choice.
It's really weird, though, that any browser on any platform renders my site okay, but Safari completely screws it up. It fails to render the table, and thus also fails to render the table-background. Really weird, since I've really only used W3C-compliant HTML code...
Posted by: Harro Jansz on January 13, 2003 2:59 PMYes, make us a tab haxie!
http://www.braino.org/blog/archives/000381.html
Posted by: Daniel Von Fange on January 14, 2003 12:03 PMOh yes, make a tab-haxie.
So that Apple doesn't need to implement it into the browser itself and I can use it as clean as it is...
Never saw the real advantage of tabbed browsing. That's what multiple windows are for. And don't come with less-window-clutter. That's only an issue if you have, say, 20 windows open. And in that particular case, tabbed browsing is useless as heck, since all you see are 20 tiny tabs with "A..." and "W..." on them ;-)
Posted by: skab on January 14, 2003 6:14 PMYes, I also have a centering prob with Safari. For example, on my site, all the Horizontal Lines are supposed to be centered. on MSIE, they are, but in Safari, they're all aligned left. Weird.
Posted by: Phil M on January 20, 2003 9:26 PMI noticed that after checking three websites associated by three of the above posters, they all failed W3C validation @ http://validator.w3.org/
Conforming to standards might help with problems with Safari. GIGO, after all.
Cheers,
Rich