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October 09, 2006
Fruity Window Shades
Update 2/11: the final versions are out. Thank you! Ah, we are finally able to give out new betas that we hope fix the Rosetta app issues. So if you have used our stuff and had troubles with Rosetta apps not starting up, try the following betas. They will run an optimization process upon installation that fixes the Rosetta issues for us. If you're having troubles after a while again, you can re-run the optimization from the Application Enhancer preference pane. Anyway:
Let us know how it works for you!   Posted by slava at October 09, 2006 05:23 AMTrackback Pings: TrackBack URL for this entry: Related:
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open[20473]: [APE] WindowShade X is not compatible with the hardware in this computer and therefore will not be functional. To find a list of computers that is compatible with WindowShade X, please go to would you guys enable it to run on non-apple hardware? my work is refusing to buy anything not built by Dell, so i am forced to run OS X on my Dell Dimension. As far as ethical aspect of this goes, i have spent over $9,000 on Apple hardware/software for my personal needs, and i hope they would not mind me installing OSX on a single non-Apple computer, to avoid running Windows. Posted by: i dont have a name on October 9, 2006 10:16 AMSo far, so good with Microsoft Word/Excel/PP/Entourage as well as Adobe Illustrator. All crashed with Windowblinds. Does the "Fix Rosetta' button update prebindings? Just curious, that's why I've been doing to get work done with older version of WB active. Posted by: Ishan Bhattacharya on October 9, 2006 2:35 PMMeant Windowshade. That's what happens when you get a MacPro. You pollute OS X with XP. It'll never happen again...I promise. Posted by: Ishan Bhattacharya on October 9, 2006 3:11 PMFor some reason I can't get windowshade to work. I am using the latest beta under 10.4.8. APE says that the module is active, the windowshade prefpane indicates that it is active. When I go to double click on a titlebar or use any other combination that I have set, nothing happens. It has to be something that I am not doing right Posted by: Joe on October 9, 2006 5:38 PMI, too, would like to know if the"fix" is just updating prebindings. Posted by: FugaMas on October 9, 2006 6:59 PMRyan, just install one of these and all will be well with Shapeshifter. Posted by: Rosyna on October 9, 2006 10:21 PMWindowShade works for all of the iLife apps. Quicken 2006 freezes it on the second try, though initially it minimizes to the upper left hand corner, though I have it set for lower right. as does Photoshop CS2. Word windows simply disappear into space somewhere. So far those are the three that don't work, or don't work properly Posted by: John Engels on October 10, 2006 6:31 AMHmm, maybe it's time to try out WindowShade again? Posted by: Simone Manganelli on October 10, 2006 8:44 AMInstalled the new Windowshade and everything worked fine. Word booted up as many times as I wanted it to, however just having the new APE installed bogged my computer down to slow as hell. Several reboots did nothing, had to completely uninstall it to get it back to normal speed. I want my Windowshade back. :( Posted by: Kevin on October 10, 2006 4:32 PMAre you sure it was windowshade bogging things down? I mean, was office itself eating the cpu? Posted by: Rosyna on October 10, 2006 4:36 PMNope. I'm fairly sure it was the new Windowshade. Before I installed the new beta this morning I never had a problem. Computer ran as fast as it was out of the box. But after installing it was slow as a bone even when I wasn't running Office, it even took longer simply to boot up. When I uninstalled APE and Windowshade it went back to normal. Posted by: Kevin on October 10, 2006 8:12 PMSo far, so good. I'm a FruitMenu and ShapeShifter happy user. My MacBook Pro is now suddenly more Pro than before. Thanks! Posted by: Jacques on October 10, 2006 8:18 PMI too am a registered Windowblinds user. I've purchased 4 products from Unsanity, back when before my iBook got borked. Now that I'm running OSX on my PC, I'm getting a message that "WindowShade X is not compatible with the hardware in this computer and therefore will not be functional." Next thing you know, software vendors will disable the software you've purchased if they "detect" that you're using a competitors product! Mind your own business or give me my money back! Posted by: Jeremy on October 11, 2006 1:02 AMInstalled the betas and its looking good. However It appears that unsanity apps keep turning off my other menu apps like Menu Meters, and SoundMenu. I have to turn the icons back on. Any ideas why? Posted by: stream on October 11, 2006 2:46 PMstream, this is a bug in the SystemUIServer and unrelated to anything we make. However, we do have a fix for it. Just install Menu Extra Enabler. More information on the bug can be found here Posted by: Rosyna on October 11, 2006 7:44 PMInstalled the new windowshadex, nothing works, windows don't minimize in place nor are they transparent when they're supposed to. Everything worked fine for me before when I was under 10.4.7 using the previous build of WindowShadeX, I think either 10.4.8 or the latest build of WindowShadeX has got some problems... APE works perfectly on the other hand, apparently that bug with rosetta apps has been fixed Posted by: duyvan82 on October 11, 2006 10:27 PMinstalled both. registered user. alll works perfectly. ape bug is gone (this one was really bad). Posted by: Vitaly Citovskyv on October 12, 2006 6:39 AMAs noted elsewhere, the new betas work much better. Also I came across this little gem, if you used the option to copy your docs, settings and apps from a previous ppc mac the prebindings could be at fault and its suggested that a forced full prebinding update can solve some of these rosetta aps problems. Posted by: graham on October 13, 2006 11:55 AMAfter installing WindowShade X 4.1b3 my Intel Mac Mini runs update_prebind after every restart. That is very annoying. What can I do? Posted by: chris on October 14, 2006 2:12 AMchris, what can you do? Let rosetta applications crash on launch. Posted by: Rosyna on October 14, 2006 2:15 AM"Let rosetta applications crash on launch" I don't get it. How do I do this at system startup or at application launch time. Is this a permanent fix for the problem? Or is it a feature not a bug? I really don't understand what's going on here. Posted by: chris on October 14, 2006 7:09 AMDon't you think your customers who have paid for these programs deserve a polite, serious, helpful forum in which questions and problems are addressed properly? These cryptic, self-indulgent and rude responses do not help your company. Posted by: on October 14, 2006 8:08 AMThis is neither a forum nor a place to get support. To get support, please go to http://www.unsanity.com/support/ to get your support questions properly addressed. We are a small company and sadly do not have the people available to also monitor and handle support on this blog. For the time being, email is the best way to get support. Posted by: Rosyna on October 14, 2006 11:31 AMI've been dealing the Unsanity crew for far longer than they would probably like, but in all my time, queries, emails, and just plain loafing around here with them, they have never once been rude to me and in fact have been quite the opposite. They've even bailed out other developers who I have directly them to in frustrating situations. I only wish there were more software developers like Unsanity. Rosyna's wit, directness, or just plain kicking sand in the face of the virtual world is not to be misconstrued as an insult, as you'll find her, and the rest of the Unsanity crew highly intelligent. Posted by: CREB on October 14, 2006 1:36 PMWell I just checked my e-mail archives. Over the past three years I've sent five messages to Unsanity tech support, reporting problems and asking questions. I have never, ever received any reply at all. No acknowledgment, no response. Nothing. Do not get me wrong. I love the products, and several of them I cannot live without. But I have other outstanding programs on my computer that come from small companies, some of them one-person operations. Many of them have support forums, and most of them respond to queries. Not always as fast as one would like, but eventually, and helpfully. Take the current Rosetta problem, for example. I have been reading this site waiting for the beginnings of a solution, which finally came. And thank you for it. But one had to be very patient and very attentive to learn useful news about the problem in the meantime. And on the tech support page? -- nothing. Not a word. No notice, nothing in the FAQ list, nothing. Eventually in one of the messages on this blog, the "sudo killall translated" workaround was mentioned. That was very helpful, and kept me going. Thank you again. But it was buried in a response to someone. Why wasn't this posted on the Tech Support page where users could easily find it? It would have taken just a few minutes for you to set this up, and nothing but good would come of it for your customers. Surely even a small company can do that if they want to, I think. Posted by: on October 14, 2006 4:12 PMhttp://www.unsanity.net/beta/shapeshifter-24b3.dmg There's ShapeShifter Beta 3. ;) Posted by: Takuro on October 14, 2006 5:46 PMWe don't appear to have received any emails from you over the past 3 years. Posted by: Rosyna on October 14, 2006 6:07 PM"This is neither a forum nor a place to get support. To get support, please go to http://www.unsanity.com/support/ to get your support questions properly addressed." Forum or no... Customer service should never end at your emails. You are an official representative of Unsanity. Being and ass... well, that doesn't get you or anyone els anywhere. Just because you are tired of answering people's honest questions, doesn't mean you get to treat them that way. Here is a good example: You get asked one million times about a problem... You should either post something in your outdated FAQ / Support section of your site, OR *gasp* answer that same question one million time... OR better yet, Fix the issue. If you don't want people to ask questions in the above manner, then get rid of it. People don't want to, nor should they have to, read through all the BS, just to get a BS answer... Didn't you know? The other side of the luxury of free beta testing is the responsibility to fix problems reported, answer questions frequently and politely, update your beta section with answers to common questions, hell... actually TRACK common questions... Maybe if you weren't so busy with playing over at MyDreamApp you could spend more time on our Dream apps... right here at Unsanity. R:\ Ryan, Unsanity is not involved in MyDreamApp. We don't add questions to FAQs for beta software, it prevents people from finding answers to their actual problems for released programs. That and it generates more support emails as people think it applies to them, try it, and it doesn't work because they don't have the beta. My answer to chris was the correct answer. It'd be the same answer given via email. If APE isn't doing what it's doing now, rosetta apps will crash on launch. Ie, you can't have both situations true at the same time. If the anon user had contacted support about the issue, he would have received the translated issue. So why isn't that an FAQ? We weren't sure how many people it affected and by waiting for emails, we were able to get a much better sampling of how serious the problem is rather that an FAQ entry could not have created. Posted by: Rosyna on October 15, 2006 4:45 PMAs I said earlier WindowShadeX does not work on my macbook running 10.4.8 *sigh* Posted by: duyvan82 on October 16, 2006 8:33 AMI've been a huge fan of WindowShade, FruitMenu, and Xounds for a long time. I was deeply disappointed when they caused problems on my new MacBook with Rosetta apps. The betas seemed to have solved the start-up problems, but I also have noticed that things are bogged down with the haxies installed vs not installed. However, I've also noticed that it's only severe in the first couple of app startups. After the computer has been running with multilple startups and shutdowns, close to normal performance is achieved. It's really odd behavior, but hopefully the final releases will work as well as we've seen in the past on PPC. Posted by: aqtinc on October 16, 2006 8:09 PMFor the technical inclined--have you figured why update_prebindings fixes things? Posted by: Matt on October 17, 2006 2:57 AMMatt, we've known for a while the issue, but having update prebindings "fix" it just confirms and solidifies the issue. basically, the cache app rosetta uses (translated) always assumes functions will have the same address across applications. APE changed these addresses so it'd just to the wrong address in newly launched applications. prebinding forces the functions to always load at the same addresses so translated's misguided assumption becomes true. In other news, moving, renaming, or obliterating translated itself also fixes the rosetta issue. Rosetta (mach) is smart enough to handle the error condition if the port can't be found. Posted by: Rosyna on October 17, 2006 4:54 AMWith the advent of Leopard just around the corner all of this must be madding for Developers. Posted by: CREB on October 18, 2006 8:11 AMHi - I am a licensed user of Windowshade on my PPC Imac and wonder when there will be a version that will also run on my new little Intel MacBook - OS 10.4.8. mbryan@magma.ca plese copy my email address (above) with any reply. Posted by: Mike Bryan on October 18, 2006 4:59 PMUnsanity so far has the worst customer support I've ever seen. I sent them a message regarding WindowShadex not working on my system, this is what I received from Unsanity: "Hi, I replied to them saying yes i did use that version, and this is their reply "Hi, I replied to that message right afterwards but I haven't heard from them back since, no more reply, nothing, I don't even know if they're still trying to help me. And yes if you're wondering, I did buy shapeshifter and silk, and I was considering buying windowshadex as well, but that will not be the case given the way I have been treated. They could have just said "OK we will try to figure out a way to fix it" or something like that, that would make it much less frustrating for me. They seem to not be bothered showing any respect to their customers. Unsanity, you've lost one customer. Preheat FruitMenu Caches? Always had great help when needed form unsanitys support, as said, they are a small company and we as customers cant expect the same support as on "the big ones" though i must say i think unsanity is way better at supporting customers then for an example our beloved Apple whom normaly cant help you with shit if you dont get their applecare-stuff. keep up the good work guys! Posted by: C J Thorsell on October 22, 2006 8:53 AMhave never had any problems w/ support. in fact, rosyna replies to my (often stupid/naive questions; i am in molecular biology, not computers) questions mostly within minutes..and slava within a day.. Posted by: vitaly Citovskyv on October 24, 2006 6:15 AMWindowShade X 4.1b3 works! I no longer experience problems with Firefox (1.5.0/7) and have removed it from my exclusion list. FWIW, my Haxies seem to be working fine all the time, i.e. those which were already compatible to the Intel Macs at each time. FruitMenu, WindowShade, ClearDock, IceCoffEE, WindowShadeX, XSounds. Still waiting (salivating!) for universal LabelsX, though. Keep up the good work, folks, I expect good stuff more than quick results. Cheers, Tom Posted by: Bonobo on October 24, 2006 12:00 PM"For the time being, email is the best way to get support." I've sent en email two days ago, no answers yet. @Jean-Francois: Ive been waiting for a week now, no reply, no answer nothing. I'm pissed >_ Posted by: duyvan82 on October 26, 2006 1:06 AMwhat the hell are you doing? intel is 1 year inside apple, adobe is on track, every little company did it to binary and you are playing around and nothing happens - i am really disappointed! The update's working fine for me, but I've noted while debugging an app I'm working on that WindowShadeX (or perhaps Application Enhancer) is leaking small amounts of memory on each miniminze/unminimize. Posted by: Nik Gervae on October 29, 2006 5:14 PMFor some reason, with WindowshadeX the deselected state preferences do not stick in finder windows. Could be more windows, but the finder ones are the most notable. R Posted by: Ryan Clark on October 30, 2006 10:47 AM4.1 Windowshade that is. Dual 2GHz PPC, 3GB mem OSX 10.4.8 Posted by: F451 on November 3, 2006 11:29 AMoh thank you unsanity!!! Hi - I've just installed the latest version (4.1.1). It seems to work OK, but considerably slowed down my bootup. Upon uninstalling it, things are snappy again. I am wondering if perhaps some component is still calling rosetta - I don't want to run rosetta, and have ported versions of all other applications, so if it's calling Rosetta for some reason, that might be what's taking so long booting up. Anything you could do to address the boot time lag would be appreciated - unfortunately it's been over a year and I'm still unable to use this product after paying for it due to issues like this popping up. Posted by: Jonathan Zdziarski on February 18, 2007 4:53 PM |