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March 28, 2005
fuzzy small and irritating
What font and size combination do you use in BBEdit? I've been at the default Monaco-9 for a long time, but decided it's killing my eyes to use such a small size. So I got crazy and switched to Monaco-11. I've tried both smoothed and non-smoothed, but neither one is making me happy as of yet. What is the perfect combination? Enlighten me all ye who code in large quantities. P.S. and is there a way I can force BBEdit to always open a file in Monaco-11? I can't seem to find a way... Update: I'm really liking ProFont 9. It's just slightly better than Monaco in my opinion. I'm going to try it out for a few days and see how it goes. Thanks John for the tip on the font settings help. Not sure how I missed that.   Posted by brian at March 28, 2005 06:14 PMTrackback Pings: TrackBack URL for this entry: Listed below are links to weblogs that reference fuzzy small and irritating: Intricate and sexy from Geekable.com Tracked on March 28, 2005 7:31 PM Related:
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I switched from Monaco 9 to Monaco 10 a few years ago. Still not anti-aliased, however. It's only one point bigger, but visually, the difference is dramatic to my eyes. To change the default font, look in the "Editor Defaults" panel in the Prefs window. To use the default font for all opened documents, even those that were last edited using some other font, turn off "Font Settings" in the "Honor Saved State" section of the "Text Files: Opening" prefs panel. (I keep this turned off for the same reason -- so every document opens in Monaco 10, even files I created years ago using Monaco 9.) Posted by: John Gruber on March 28, 2005 6:46 PMI'm a freak in that I use Monaco-13 aliased. I like sitting back off the monitor and this helps. Posted by: Mike Zornek on March 28, 2005 7:27 PMTriskweline 10. Font of champions. http://www.netalive.org/tinkering/triskweline/ Posted by: Greg on March 28, 2005 7:34 PMAnother vote for ProFont 9. The serifs on "i" and "l" make it much more readable than Monaco. Posted by: Joshua Bereiter on March 28, 2005 9:16 PMMPW 9 point ftp://ftp.apple.com/developer/Tool_Chest/Core_Mac_OS_Tools/MPW_etc./Miscellaneous/MPW_Font.sit.hqx Posted by: Caleb Jaffa on March 28, 2005 9:17 PMProfont http://www.tobias-jung.de/seekingprofont/ Posted by: Michael Baltaks on March 28, 2005 9:58 PMErm... Monaco 11 23" Cinema Display and no complaints yet ~_^ Posted by: Josh Zerin on March 29, 2005 8:54 AMUse to use ProFont-9 on OS 9. Switched to Monaco-10 on OS X. Posted by: Quentin on March 29, 2005 7:56 PMMonaco 9 forever! Seriously, what is different about ProFont at this point? I thought Monaco 9 had long since adopted all of ProFont's ProFontiness: the line through the zero, the heaver colon and semicolon, the lowercase "L" that doesn't look like a capital "I" (I miss that feature... ;-) etc. etc. Posted by: John Siracusa on March 30, 2005 5:18 AMI really like "Andale Mono" at 11. I know it's an MS font but I really like it. Posted by: Bryan Schappel on March 30, 2005 7:07 AMJohn, I took a quick look at ProFont as a result of this thread and here's what jumped out at me: At 10pt, they look pretty similar. At 9 point, ProFont has lower underscores, so they're more obvious, and capital I's have top and bottom extenders instead of looking similar to a 1. I'm sure there are other differences too, as I said, this is what popped out at me. I tried a few of the fonts mentioned in this thread and wound up going back to the defaults (Monaco 9 in BBEdit, Monaco 10 in Xcode). ProFont was nice but felt "cramped" to me. I guess I'm just used to Monaco! Posted by: Jason Harris on March 30, 2005 3:05 PMI'm using Nu Sans Mono, 10pt, non-smoothed for a long time now. OK, it's nearly as small as Monaco 9. However it is wider then Monaco (It wasn't on MacOS9, IIRC) and in Terminal I've set character width to about 96%. One disadvantage: It's not free: $8. http://www.scootergraphics.com/nusansmono/index.html PS: There is also Nu Sans, a Sans Serif font that is smaller, better readable and/or looks better when printed than Arial, Helvetica and Lucida Grande. I actually switched back from Monaco 10px to Monaco 9px, simply because I need to see more code on my screen. Monaco 9px is small enough yet large enough, if you know what I mean. :) Posted by: Denis Defreyne on April 4, 2005 12:45 AMI switched away from Monaco-9 to Monaco-10 for the same reasons you cite, 9 is just too small for comfort. For some reason Monaco-11 didn't look as smooth or nice as 10 and 12 did to me anyway. The setting for default text isn't the most obvious thing. I missed it too. Bare Bones support was kind enough to point it out in a quick e-mail though. I'll try some of the suggestions on here as well. Posted by: Armen Abrahamian on April 5, 2005 6:12 AMI used to swear by ProFont 9, but I actually switched to Andale Mono 12 a few years ago as monitor pixel density started going up. I think it's awesome when anti-aliased. Might feel a little horsey for those who are still using Monaco 9 or ProFont 9. Posted by: Pascal on April 27, 2005 11:42 PMJust had to throw my fav into the ring. I can't stand coding using any font at 9-point. I need something I can read, especially as screen resolutions increase. I use a font that looks equally good at 10, 12, and 14pt. And it looks surprisingly good when smoothed. It was originally designed specifically for coding. It does a super job of seperating 1s from ls, semicolons from colons, periods from commas, braces from parentheses, etc. It's called Crystal. Give it a try: Incidentally, Bitstream mono sans is very good too. Monaco/Profont is /so/ 1984/9-inch screen. Posted by: Graham Bakay on April 30, 2005 11:38 PMI've been using Anonymous (free) http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymous.html Can't seem to change it in BBedit though, this is driving me crazy! It keeps insisting on Monaco-9 no matter what I do! I've even disabled the Honor Saved state feature but it still seems to insist. :/ Posted by: Anthony on January 25, 2006 9:15 PM |