Well now, all this hoopla and the dreaded "Does not work on PowerPC" warning dialog just killed ALL my hopes...

BTW, thanks for NOT mentioning this little caveat..... grrrrr

What a super cool MIGHTY MOUSE icon:) Looking foward for TP/SS updates..

Thanks.

Anthony, I just forgot to turn on PPC support when building. If you redownload Mighty Mouse, it should now support PPC machines.

Jason,

Thank you very much for posting the updated build of MM2...

At my age, I need all the help I can get with visual keys onscreen and MM2 is the closest thing since CursorFX....

Thank you very much for the Mighty Mouse update! I was very pleased to see that it was a free upgrade. That shows commitment on your part that is to be respected and I gladly paid the Voluntary Upgrade Fee. I suggest everyone else do the same! Cheers!

ditto, done

Can someone tell me how he did that green radar thing with his cursor please!!

Thanks guys for the update on Shapeshifter and Leopard, given your explanation it makes perfect sense to wait this one out.

That having been said, you pointed towards Magnifique and the now vaporware, Facade. I wanted to see if you had found a way to theme the system-wide font color that appears in the title area of the windows from black to white.

Several awesome themes can't be ported due to this limitation. If you know of a way then please let us know!

I am having trouble getting scroll bars skinned. I tried modifying the ArtFile and the Extras and could not get any changes in the GUI. Could you please advise? Thanks and thank you for the new ThemePark!

suleiman, unfortunately, there's no way to do system-wide text color changes without an APE module or something similar. This is part of what I meant when I said that ThemePark is really limited compared to ShapeShifter. There's a ton of stuff that just isn't possible without APE.

Frank, I'm sorry, but I have no clue at all what you need to do to skin the scrollbars. Try asking on http://macthemes2.net forums.

Thanks for the fast response Jason, we'll be waiting on the wings of Snow Leopard to hear from you about SS for SL.

Hi ! Very good work for ThemePark but it seems that ThemePark can't edit the Extras.rsrc, effectively when i make changes to it and when i save and press "Apply Theme" there is no change to my UI (yes i have CoreUI disabled this is why i edit Extras.rsrc ;) ) and when i open the .rsrc with older ThemePark there isn't any changes, why ?

Hey all, if you are looking for a simple theme changer, try Kameleon. I am running it under 10.5.7 on my unibody MB. Not a huge selection of themes but between Kameleon and Mighty Mouse, I have gotten rid of the garish Apple GUI. Who knows if Kameleon will work under 10.6, but it allows me to get rid of the eye candy that I really hate.
Cheers
Eric

Hi Jason,

I would like to know what the "green radar thing" in the video was too....

seeya
eidolon

Jayson said it well. Though Theme park gives us an easy way to edit and install themes, check out macthemes for how tos. Frank, try experimenting with turning core UI on and off. That changes the way certain things work. My current theme has black writing outlined with light grey on the title bars system wide. The menu bar text is white. It works well however it is not quite up to the Amun Raa style to which I was accustomed in tiger.

Thanks Smeg!

Damien, thanks for the info, that definitely sounds like a bug. I'll dig into it but don't expect anything right off the bat since it's WWDC week. If there's a quick fix, though, I'll release a new build and post it here.

The green radar cursor is the default mouse click effect provided by the screencast software I used, iShowU HD.

Thanks Jason for the radar cursor info. Found these that sort of do the same thing ish...

http://www.2point5fish.com/index.html
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/17059

It would be nice if something like this was built into Mighty Mouse.

seeya
eidolon

Is it just me or the new Themepark seems to be having problem with Extras.rsrc? Changes to Extras.rsrc don't stick at all.

Do any of the theming programs mentioned perform the function of LabelsX?

Also, does LabelsX fall into the same conundrum that ShapeShifter is in?

Thanks for the update!

using the new themepark some pieces of the artfile wont change at all wondering if there is a fix or work around for it thanks

duyvan82, yes, it looks like I screwed something up on Extras.rsrc, changes aren't sticking. Fix expected after WWDC is over.

justin: Can you be specific on whatever the issue is? I'm not aware of any issues with ArtFile editing.

@Jason: thanks for the quick reply. I too am having some problem with ArtFile editing. Basically when editing images, especially seperator resources, Themepark seems unable to recognize different "pieces" of the images. A work around would be to check "edit individual pieces", but you would have to start a new fresh theme as there seems to be no way to fix the issue once it's happened. I hope that makes sence to you all.

when editing the images i get this result: http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h231/jusasweet69/Picture24.png
only half the image changes it happens for only certain objects no matter what i try
hope that helps some

Jason,

Since you seem to be reading this thread, I've been trying to reach anyone at Unsanity for over a year regarding a license issue. (I've sent numerous emails to most of Unsanity's addresses listed on the contacts page, and I've left several blog posts.) Is there possibly an email address at which I can directly reach you?

duyvan, sounds like you and justin are seeing the same issue. Does his screenshot look like the problem you're experiencing?

Justin, just to be completely clear, the issue is that the bottom half of some of those arrows in the bottom two rows is unchanged. Is that correct? (I like what you're working on very much, btw).

Noam, I don't deal with licensing issues at all, but if you send an email to my first name at this company's dot com domain, I'll personally make sure it gets sorted. Assuming your email makes it through my spam filter. :)

yes some of the buttons only half the images change on some of them mostly there and the vertical volume sliders are where i get problems mostly and thank you i would love to finish it if its any help im on 10.5.7

@Jason: not quite, look at this screenshothttp://img199.imageshack.us/img199/743/picture1kdf.png

the separator is supposed to be in the middle, not drifted to the left like it is on the screenshot. There's no way I could fix it apart from starting everything all over again. I think having an option to reverse the change (or to untheme the element like the old themepark) would be very useful.

seems changing just one thing in snow leopard's artfile can cause all the buttons to vanish (see here: http://tinyurl.com/m9ez8r )

sure wish i knew why

roosta, what did you change? If you changed the *size* of an element, be aware that ThemePark will do it without complaining but I haven't tested whether the OS actually can handle it or not.

roosta, what did you change? If you changed the *size* of an element, be aware that ThemePark will do it without complaining but I haven't tested whether the OS actually can handle it or not.

duyvan, I agree, ThemePark needs a way to use whatever is installed for a particular element. Will add.

hey jason just wondering if you know what the cause of the problem can be? that only half the image would change in the artfile.
thanks

Hi Jason,

I sent off an email to you. Thank you very much for being willing to personally help. I very much appreciate it.

Jason,

Any news on a new version of Themepark yet?

Cheers mate

Hi Jason,

Just wanted to make sure my email made it through your spam filter. :) If you could let me know, that would be fabulous.

For those of us still using Shapeshifter on 10.4, any chance of fixing the Firefox interaction issues? For previous versions of FX, Shapeshifter would just cause it to crash. For current versions, it messes with the dropdown menus

See:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1082875&start=0

Hi, i was modding a theme using themepark 4, and after finishing, i found that themepark 4 does not apply Extras.rsrc :(

Is there a way i can export the extras.tpark file as a rsrc file, or will i have to wait for the second version?

Hi Jason,

Just checking in again since I haven't heard back from you in a couple of weeks. I haven't received any response to the email about license issues that I sent to you and that you said you would pass on. I apologize if I seem to be nagging; I simply got my hopes up when you responded after a year of not being able to reach anyone at Unsanity.

Noam

Hello Jason,

I was wondering if you could say if there are plans to help us 10.4 users skin Safari 4? Seeing as it's quite difficult to revert to 3, a lot of us shapeshifters are rather upset by the "upgrade."

Thanks,
J

Well your mention of the way OS X (Leopard) combines three facets to work it's magic explains why some interface elements still look like something from Mac OS 9 and earlier. An example of this would be the black & white wrist watch cursor that still appears from time to time instead of the spinning rainbow beachball now makes sense to me. I don't blame you for taking your time with Shapeshifter until Apple switches to just one facet to control this. Thanks for all your hard work by the way. It is appreciated.

Jason,
Thank you for the recent updates and explanation of why ShapeShifter hasn't had any (apparent) movement on it. I second George's post and want to add my thanks for your hard work.. It will be glorious when it all finally comes together with Snow Leopard.
Regards,

Deb.

Now that you got that Shapeshifter stuff out of your system, how about an far overdue update to Labels X?

I mean, seriously!

Jason,

I'm very glad to hear that your intention is to continue work on Shapeshifter, albeit at a later date. Theming is certainly in a rather sad state, but perhaps with Snow Leopards arrival things will improve. In the meantime I was very excited to try the new ThemePark alpha, only to discover that it is an Intel binary. Could you please compile a universal binary for those of us still in the PPC realm? My appreciation in advance.

Aleksej

Labels X please.

I found this over at Arstechnica regarding Apple's next version of MacOS 10.6,

"To head off many common installation problems, Snow Leopard also has a few built-in protections. It won't install on a hard drive that reports SMART failures. To prevent issues with "haxies" or other software causing boot problems, the Snow Leopard installer will scan for known problem software and move it to a folder labelled "Incompatible Software." And, if for some reason there is a power failure during the install process, it will pick right back up from where it was halted—that is slick."

I wonder if this will conflict with Unsanity's feature of simply automatically turning off the offending haxie?

So which Unsanity haxies will be needed in OS 10.6 and when will they be ready?

I was happy to see Mighty Mouse available at last and downloaded it and paid. UNFORTUNATELY every time I start my computer the cursors have reverted to the default Mac ones. Very annoying.

I correction to my post just above. I don't even have to turn my computer off!! After a few hours I realize it's the default cursors that are back. What a waste of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know, Leopard has been out for some time now. Might be a good idea to update Shapeshifter for use with it, yes?

"So which Unsanity haxies will be needed in OS 10.6 and when will they be ready?"

I second this question.
10.6 is being released this Friday, any word if the current versions will work under 10.6 ?

- Jay

It has been confirmed that some haxies does NOT work under 10.6.
http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/

Another year without any response from Unsanity ?

Just a word to the wise. If you are going to be an early adopter of Snow Leopard, make sure you have all the most up-to-date versions of Unsanity's Haxies installed. It's not Unsanity's fault if you end up with the BSOD because you are running an old version of a haxie (especially APE) and they have released one that would work or automatically shut itself down if it was incompatible. And personally, I'll run Applejack in full (all 5 steps) before installing Snow Leopard.

"It's not Unsanity's fault if you end up with the BSOD because you are running an old version of a haxie (especially APE) and they have released one that would work or automatically shut itself down if it was incompatible."

Nice blame the victim attitude.

"And personally, I'll run Applejack in full (all 5 steps) before installing Snow Leopard."

Applejack does 5 things.

1. repair disks - If you choose to show logs during an OS install, and make it show everything, you'll find that the OS X installer already runs fsck against the target disk. I've observed it in plain Leopard, and it's probably been in there forever. It only makes sense. So you don't need Applejack to do this.

2. repair permissions - first, repairing permissions is the modern "reset PRAM", a feel-good cure-all which actually has nothing to do with 99% of the problems people claim it fixes. Second, Snow Leopard's installer is going to remove the existing OS install and replace it with new files. It doesn't matter what the old files' permissions are when they're being replaced. So this is unnecessary.

3. Cleanup cache files - I would bet that the SL installer does this automatically too, since cache file formats have frequently changed between OS X versions.

4. Validate prefs files - same comment as 3. Forget about damaged prefs, SL's installer has to worry about preferences whose valid values have *changed*.

5. Remove swap files - done on EVERY BOOT by the system, automatically.

I will be installing SL after nothing more exciting than an ordinary backup. A backup is by far the most important thing to do when upgrading an OS. Forget the prophylactics like Applejack and focus on what's actually important.

"Another year without any response from Unsanity ?"

I hope not.

C'mon guys, here's your chance to redeem yourself with just a bit of news to your fans !

Are you guys working on it ? Have you been playing with the developer release, or are you waiting for the commercial release ?

- Jay

Have faith people...Unsanity will come through. Actually, since Apple released SL one month early it gives the team more time to assess matters.

> Have faith people...Unsanity will come through.

Yeah, Unsanity will come, EVENTUALLY. At Sep. 2010, maybe ?

after so many years of using (and beta-testing) unsanity software, i finally decided to get rid of it, at least for now. i have never had any problems with any of their haxies, thus stuck to it so much. but i has become unbearable to wait for updates for years. there are no really good alternatives in one application, but there are some apps out there that help and work

I've stopped using Unsanity software completely for the foreseeable future! Mostly because it all stopped working when SnowLeopard came out and there's no word as usual if anyone here knows or cares or is fixing it. Other than having to live without it every time Apple updates the system I've never had any problem with Haxies and have always used all of them. Looking forward to getting back to normal if they ever re-appear. Especially Shapeshifter... it's been so long. :-[

Somebody got in touch with Unsanity.

"Now, in the original version of the Ars post (I wish I had a screenshot), there was speculation that this would break Unsanity haxies, but that info has been altered since then. Still, I thought I would shoot off an email to Unsanity and get a direct answer. Rosyna was kind enough to provide me with some answers, and I thought I'd share these with you here.

Q: You may not be able to answer this one, but can any of you confirm or deny rumors that InputManager plugins are broken in Leopard?

A: We cannot comment.

No surprises here!

Q: Whether or not the rumor is true, do you see the disabling of InputManager plugins as a good thing or a bad thing?

A: I couldn't say, honestly. If true, it'd cause a lot of useful software to be otherwise disabled.

Q: Would this impact APE in any way if it were true (hypothetically speaking)?

A: Why would it impact APE at all? APE has nothing whatsoever to do with InputManagers. Only two of our products (SCR, MEE) use Input Managers and both of them are quite free. Input Managers are cocoa only and are therefore not adequate for our needs.

At this point, my other questions were rendered moot. The short story is that APE is here to stay.

Of additional interest, the TUAW post has a comment with a questionable picture (comment #7) that refutes the total disabling of InputManager plugins, and an update at the bottom of the Ars post says this:

When you install Leopard, InputManagers are (currently) disabled by default, but they can be enabled when Leopard finds something of yours that uses an InputManager and presents you with a dialog box. You can currently enable them this way, but if you click "Disable" (which is the default option), they apparently go away for good. "That's what Apple says is the current behavior. They're not sure what the final behavior will be," says one developer. "Apple says they are deprecated, and in 'a future release' they will be disabled pernamently. They won't say if that release is 10.5.x or 10.6."

As far as InputManager-powered products go, I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but it does seem certain that APE modules will be completely unaffected by this, which is good news for me as well as many other Mac users!"

"We are already doing some research on the Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard to make our most popular haxies supported, as well as bring you something new."

This statement above is now 5 months old. Can we please get a comment update on this possiblity?

PLEASE guys, give a little info on how you're doing with Snow Leopard compatibility. My mac just isn't the same without Window Shade X and Menu Master.

Remember those of us that paid the VUF for Mighty Mouse just a couple of months ago? Well 10.6 broke it again. Can you at least give us an updated response about when this might be fixed? Thanks.

I really want to update of your products for Snow Leopard. especially fruit menu & menu master.

SL released.
PLEASE, update Window Shade X.

C'mon guys, what's going on ?

Give us some news, what with new "rebirth" of Unsanity, and all.

- Jay

I give up on these people!!! I know they are probably busy but if they take your money they should at lest care a bit. I've posted here and written by email to them, both several times, with no response what so ever. I paid for the latest version of Mighty Mouse that was supposed to work on Leopard but it kept defaulting my cursors. So I got nothing for my money. Now with Snow Leopard it doesn't work at all. I know they're now swamped with queries but they didn't care before!!

Faithful Unsanity followers, it's time to quit using APE now. It's already a pattern when each new system is released, the Unsanity guys will disappear for a long time, despite that the OS developer alpha had been sent to them months ago.

This place is abandoned (again), lets discuss the alternative of Haxies.

I'll be updating to Snow Leopard next week, and I know I'll be leaving FruitMenu and Menu Master behind. There are alternatives to FruitMenu that offer similar features, although none seem as slick as FruitMenu.

On the other hand, Menu Master seems unique in its one-step technique for customizing menu shortcuts (for the applications where it works). OS X System Prefs Keyboard Shortcuts and QuicKeys 4 are possible alternatives, but both are quite tedious. Has anyone found an effective replacement for Menu Master?

>Has anyone found an effective replacement for Menu Master?

I reverted to using XMenu. Took some creative thinking to set up the folders with apps inside. Certainly not in the same league as Fruit Menu, however, as an interim step it's an alternative.

Don't know if FM has seen its last days - I hope not. E-mailed developer last week, however, as others have posted, she's seemingly not in the house.

Same here; using XMenu until haxies are SL compatible. XMenu has to be relaunched on startup to show the icons in the menu bar, which is an annoyance.

i am using menu browser ($5 shareware), it does not need configuring via aliases like xmenu

It seems odd that they still haven't added any statements or anything recently regarding SL. Maybe Unsainity didn't survive the recession. That would suck as I do quite like Fruitmenu.

>XMenu has to be relaunched on startup to show the icons in the menu bar, which is an annoyance.

Just add the app to your login list in System Preferences>Accounts.
My folders look like this:
http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot20090915at809.jpg

The only drag is the difficulty placing the apps in a desired order.

You should post a general "Snow Leopard" compatibility grid on the front page of your site similar to the one you did for Leopard. Yes, we appreciate many of the haxies have "broken" and that's not your fault, but since there seem to be mechanisms still open to implement third party utilities (for instance script injection methods in Safari), we'd love to hear your advice about what hope there remains for a new version of indispensible utilities like FruitMenu.

Thanks.

Does anyone know of a windowshade alternative?

It is with enormous pain that, after years of relying on Unsanity products (particularly FontCard and WindowShade) and defending the company--even when, so many times, such defense was, at best, questionable--I must now finally give up on them as well. Four months since any blog post of any type, not even a "we're looking into things" kind of post, and in particular considering the previous year or so of virtual, intolerable silence (which Unsanity "promised" not to ever do again...yeah, right), it's just a travesty. Clearly a company that cannot be relied upon in any way at any level, I must move on.

Which brings me to a serious problem. I must upgrade, soon, to Snow Leopard (work related requirement). Now, I can live, however uncomfortably, without WindowShade. Yet, as a visual designer with over 10,000 fonts (being managed by FontAgent Pro, 10.6 compatible), I MUST have a way to visually arrange fonts, by family/style/weight, across all of my font menus. Unsanity's FontCard did this beautifully, and I've used it for years. However, now that FontCard is dead, does anyone know of a Snow Leopard compatible replacement for its functionality?

The next closest thing I knew of was You Control: Fonts, but that product was (A) decidedly inferior and (B) not Snow Leopard compatible with no apparent plan to update it. And, NO, the Mac OS does NOT provide anything close to what FontCard did, nor, to my knowledge, does FontAgent Pro or any of the other leading font managers.

Anyone, replacement for FontCard?

There isn't.

My advertising agency (a medium sized company in Spain) needs FontCard or You Control Fonts, too.

I only hope that these utilities will be updated. We will buy a lot of copies of the program when work in snow leopard.

I installed Mighty Mouse. I have an IMac G5 running 10.5.8.
The Finder went nuts. If you click on an icon, it did not highlight that icon it moved to another one. Also menu drop down was not stable. It also move around the screen. I Disabled Mighty Mouse and the problem disappeared. Please keep working on Mighty Mouse and all your great programs!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kevin J, I feel your pain. Wish there was some way to wrest control of Unsanity products from them. Their behavior is indefensible, however in fairness we don't know how difficult Apple may have made it for them on the programming side of things.

I can't help on a FontCard replacement, but if you're looking for a Labels X alternative, this looks cool for Snow Leopard...Google: iconXprit or go to their rather plain site: http://trollin.loos.li/index.html

It's Windowshade I'm going to miss the most. I've been managing my windows like that since the days of System 7. Apple's modern sloop'n'gloop minimize is making me feel ill. I know I'm not alone.

I have a feeling that the person who develops a Windowshade equivalent for Snow Leopard is going to become very rich indeed...

OK APE installed OK on a Mini running Snow Leopard 10.6.1. Windowshade 4.5.3 will not install. Is Windowshade not ready for 10.6 yet? I will miss it, and judging from the above comment by The Master it isn't. Too bad

APE is reinstalling itself almost every 5 days or so (Leopard). Do others experience the same issue? Is there a way to get rid of this? Please do not ask if I asked Unsanity—or should one call them Autismanity?

Gérald: Not normal for APE to reinstall. I would download APE installer and do a clean install. If it persists, it's something with Leopard. You may want to download Apple's 10.5.8 Combo Updater - the incremental updates sometimes do not take properly.

please, we need a new version of fruitmenu compatible with snow leopard. =^)

I have installed Keyboard Maestro under Snow Leopard. It is an application which is equivalent to Menu Master. It does involve a few more steps in setup, but once set up functions the same. It allows application specific key combinations. Have only used is for ~ 1 week, but so far works as advertised and desired. Regrettably have found no equivalent for Fruit Menu.

is it at all possible to get a copy of the snow leopard compatible themepark beta? i'm working on a couple of themes and i'm tired of changing the text within the systemversion.plist lus i can't make any changes within the sartfile.

thanks in advance

New version of Theme Park available that works under Snow Leopard at this url:

http://www.geekspiff.com/download.php?product=themepark

Please give me Window Shade, Fruit Menu & Ape (dock background clearer) for Snow Leopard (OS10.6.2) How hard can this be? I supported you guys way back when; please support me now. Thank you very kindly.