I've been relying on the pair's installed SpamAssassin for a long while, yet it become totally untolerable in the way how many spam emails pass through its filters.
Yesterday, after reading inluminent's entry about SpamSieve, I suddenly remembered about it's existance and decided to give it a try.
I downloaded it, installed it and trained it with a bit of the spam messages found in my email box.
Today, I am sold out:
Filtered Mail
29 Good Messages
148 Spam Messages (84%)
176 Spam Messages Per Day
SpamSieve Accuracy
0 False Positives
0 False Negatives
100.0% Correct
Corpus
177 Good Messages
347 Spam Messages (66%)
28631 Total Words
Rules
642 Blocklist Rules
131 Whitelist Rules
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11/1/04 15:17
This is a no-brainer for me -- bought it today. Thanks, Michael! This adds one more person to a list of people I want to buy a bottle of their favorite drink when we meet next time. ;)
Posted by slava at 12:14 AM
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One thing Pair isn't so good about telling you is that you have to update the SpamAssassin corpus yourself by uploading your spam (and some representative ham, if you feel like it) and running sa-learn from the shell.
It's pretty easy (especially if you use a mail client that already uses mbox format mailboxes, like Eudora) and I make sure to do it once a month, but it's certainly something that isn't going to make it easy for "ordinary" people to keep up with.
Anyway, since it's up to date, my copy of SpamAssassin works beautifully.
Posted by: Brian W on November 2, 2004 6:14 AMPOPfile beats them all over the long term. Give it a try and you will never look back.
...and it's open source to boot! = )
Posted by: mono on November 2, 2004 6:51 AMHmm...the POPfile URL didn't come through. I guess I shouldn't have enclosed it in brakcets!
Here it is again:
http://popfile.sourceforge.net/
Posted by: mono on November 2, 2004 6:52 AMI have used all the above products... and i MUST say that i absolutely HATE having to open a third party application (spamsieve, popfire, etc, etc) just to check my mail, and then if it finds good mail, i HATE to have to open apples MAIL, or entourage, or whatever variant you use, to read the good mail...
Enter SpamFire. IMHO, the best of the spam filtering apps...
#1 it auto downloads filter updates, and also has a EXTREMELY advanced filtering technique that allows you to secure all your good emails while removing all rolex, v1agra, and pen1s enlargment emails! :P
#2 its got a CRON! YES! finally! you do NOT have to do anything! just turn on your mac, and every 10 minutes, or 15, or whatever, you can have it auto check, in the background, as a system service, without launching ANY apps!, and when it finds good mail, booya! it auto launches entourage and you have mail!
http://www.matterform.com/?page=spamfire/
Posted by: zurie on November 8, 2004 8:46 AMadd another vote for popfile. it's a bit hard to install, and you need some applescripts to integrate it with most mail clients, but it totally rules. after about a year, I'm at 99.6% accuracy. and I don't just have a "spam" and "ham" classification, I classify my mail into about 10 different buckets (personal mail, mail from my school, "important" mail, spam, mail errors and more). That's right, popfile even manages to figure out what mails are "important" to me. it's totally awesome.
Posted by: LKM on November 9, 2004 6:17 AMI own Spamfire and used it for about a year before i tried Spamseive. No comparison IMO. Spamseive is *sooo* much more stable and effective. Seven email addresses get checked several times a day here and well over 90% is spam that I never even have to look at any more thanks to Michael Tsai. I don't lik ehis icons much but his apps are awesome (Drop DMG too--one of the first apps to generate .dmg files)
Posted by: steve humann on November 11, 2004 11:40 PMAnd Slava, your english is *excellent* and certainly better than my own Russian, da, but I'm going to take this opportunity to tell you that "sold out" has a negative connotation in both England and America and it's not really what you want to say. What we both are, in regard to Spamseive, is "sold," as in convinced.
"Sold out" is what your favorite band did when they signed to a major label and started letting the suits decide how they should sound, look and act.
Apologies in advance for this unrequested correction, but I remember appreciating this sort of thing when I was stuck in Germany and tried to learn that language for almost a year.
Posted by: steve humann on November 12, 2004 8:12 AMit would seem you get off quite lightly, compared to someone else... ;)
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13251059,00.html
Posted by: Phil Sherry on November 19, 2004 1:57 PMKeep comments on topic. If a comment is unrelated to this post, it may be removed or moderated.