May 06, 2003
The Pill Mouse Won't Die

Mini-poll: How many of you use the standard "pill mouse" ?

Along with the new eMacs announced by Apple today, it seems we have a new mouse and keyboard also.

I never even took my pill mouse out of the wrapper. The hockey puck was a disgrace to the mouse name and I don't think much better of the pill. I had a new Logitech mouse purchased and waiting before my MDD G4 ever arrived.

With the pill, I am constantly clicking when I don't want to click, getting the cord stuck under the front edge of mouse, and just generally not liking the feel while using it.

I think maybe I'll found Despisers of Apple Mice Club. I can't understand how a person can use both a standard Apple offering and then try out a cheap 2 button scroll wheel mouse and not instantly pay their membership dues and join the DAMC.

My brother was a pill user for a year. He thought it was great, no complaints, "bah, I don't need no stinking two buttons". I stole his pill and made him use a 2 button scroll wheel mouse. Yup, he paid his fee and is a proud member of DAMC to this day.

I have waited for years for Apple to wake up, prove me right, and announce that they screwed up and just realized they forgot to ship the cool new useful mouse they had sitting in a warehouse somewhere and it should be on our doorsteps within the week.

(sure would be fun to stroll through Apple HQ and see how many 3rd party mice are sitting on desktops...)

Until then, I'm sure DAMC will continue on whining and collecting membership fees. There's a bright side to everything. :)

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 Posted by brian at May 06, 2003 06:02 PM




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Down with one button mice. Such a dumb idea in todays world. OS X practically requires a second button. It's not intuative to have to press a key while clicking to bring up a menu. That function was added in OS 8 as a placeholder since an actual useful 2-button Apple Mouse wasn't available. It's TIME you wake up, Apple! People need two buttons and a wheel. It's practically required in todays society.

I'm perfectly happy with my 5-button and wheel Microsoft Optical Mouse.

Posted by: Jason Anderson on May 6, 2003 6:14 PM

I am not an old mac user. I moved to the platform in january 2002. How any of you have EVER used a 1 button mouse is beyond me. When i got my tower, the first thing i plugged in was my Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (First generation with the large back buttons, not the crappy new light weight one with small back buttons). To not have a wheel is to lose productivity. Period. How Apple could have boasted the iMac as such an "Internet" machine without a wheel is just flat out insane.

You DO need a right click, it IS faster than hitting control, and my thumb never leaves my command key, but its still faster to right click. Anyone saying different is just holding onto something that will soon be gone. They still want to be "Different" I guess.

Not only is the wheel and right click important, the back and forward buttons are life savers. I dont' use the forward as much as i should, but i don't go forward very much. The back button saves not just seconds of time, but movement of my hand. *Click* and I'm back at the last page. This is especially nice while at sites with you know, lots of gallerys.....

The other thing is that the mouse wheel is also a button. It took me about 2 seconds to make that button and "open in new tab" function. Don't even get me started how nice that is. I can do a search or go to a normal page and just click down a list and each link opens in a new tab in the background. This is especially nice at Spymac now that its gotten extremely slow.

Anyone else use multiple button mice?

Posted by: Jon Maddox on May 6, 2003 6:31 PM

I don't use Apple mice. Right now I'm using a Fellowes 5-button optical mouse (with USB Overdrive) on my 12" PBG4. On my other computers I use a Kensington Optical Elite and a Logitech wireless duo keyboard/mouse.

Posted by: Mike Cohen on May 6, 2003 7:05 PM

I have a drawer full of Apple mice since the year 1984! My current mouse is Microsuck's IntelliMouse Explorer which for everyone who doesn't know is designed, developed and produced by Hewlett Packard for Microsuck. I use to work for HP (long, long time ago), and my wife still does. I can't live with Apple's mice and never even plug them in...this sit askew in their plastic wrappers residing in my peripheral, cable and products-no-longer-supported drawers and boxes. Man, do I have a lot of old computer junk!

Posted by: CREB on May 6, 2003 7:17 PM

Switching over from the PC world and moving to the Powerbook i thought i'd miss the two buttons and the scroll wheel. The thing is, on a laptop(and on the road) i don't miss it at all. i am rarely using the mouse as is. With the laptop keyboard/trackpad designed the way it is i can just as easily use ctrl with my with my left hand and click with my right hand as i can by hitting where the mouse button is, and if i need to scroll i use my pinky to use the arrow keys. As for a desktop or desktop use of my laptop i agree a one button non wheeled mouse amazes me, actually mice in general amaze me. I feel the make waste of desk space, but i guessing living in dorms and small apartments for the last few year have made me appreciate all the deskspace i can get and a trackball seems to be the ideal tool. though i hope they wake up and change but i hope that they don't decide to change the laptop design because they are just amazingly well designed laptops.

Posted by: Zer0Her0 on May 6, 2003 7:26 PM

This was the best apple mouse ever:

http://www.vfxweb.com/itempics/1206-0.jpg

if they revived this (with USB & optical) they'd have a good basic mouse

Posted by: Diggory Laycock on May 6, 2003 7:26 PM

Logitech 2 button all the way. I heart contextual menus.

Posted by: Jon Gales on May 6, 2003 7:30 PM

when apple was first pondering what became os x (rhapsody and copland days) they seeded some test machines. these machines came with multibutton mice.

the user reaction was massively against the move. a lot of it was based around a pretty fundamental problem with os x that still exists right now. 'old mac users' transitioning to os x have enough new stuff to deal without having to figure what the hell to do with an extra button.

yeah, i think its lame too. esp since os x has been out for a very long time now. and it just gets worse from here, learning-curve-wise, if you're a hold-out os 9 user.

Posted by: sungo on May 6, 2003 7:54 PM

I use an IntelliMouse Explorer also. It kicks any Apple mouse in the rear... My pill mouse makes a good ash tray though (saw that at SpyMac once).

Posted by: Dan on May 6, 2003 8:30 PM

I love my Macally Ice Mouse.

Apple should at least make it an option to order machines with two button mice.

Anyone want to buy a bunch of unused one button mice, lol.


Posted by: Terri on May 6, 2003 8:50 PM

I love my Macally Ice Mouse.

Apple should at least make it an option to order machines with two button mice.

Anyone want to buy a bunch of unused one button mice, lol.


Posted by: Terri on May 6, 2003 8:50 PM

Amen, Brian. But please call it the Despisers of Apple Mice Nation (or at least something with 'N' - DAMN). ;-)

I have only had a Mac since late 2001, but could never use the 1-button mice. I come from a UNIX and Windows background, and need three buttons, or at least a wheel mouse where the mouse is a middle button. I use a Kensington Iridio. I love Kensington mice and the Kensington MouseWorks. I really think Apple is dumb for not having a mouse similar to this. Every once in a while I think about a laptop, but pretty quickly think again because of the 1-button "mitten-mouse" they have. Yuck.

Posted by: Ken on May 6, 2003 9:17 PM

I don't need no stinkin' two button mouse!

Posted by: Abdul on May 6, 2003 9:18 PM

The one button mouse is my mouse of choice. It fits my hand perfectly.

I have a logitech 2 button mouse at home that i use when i visit, but it doesn't do much more for me than my trusty one button.

The key is the Powermate. It solved my problem of a lack of scroll wheel :)

Posted by: Justin Williams on May 6, 2003 9:34 PM

Maybe you want to try this mouse made by Amice:

http://ubb.frostyplace.com.tw/fp_images/news/200305/amice.jpg

I recently got one from a friend as a gift, it shapes just like the pill mouse (a bit smaller), but with two buttons & a scroll wheel!!

This mouse works so great that now my M$ IntelliEye mouse is sitting in my drawer gathering dust. :-)

Posted by: Bryan Chang on May 6, 2003 9:47 PM

When I got my standard Apple mouse with my system, I didn't plug it in, assuming it was silly, and instead used a Logitech I already had. Then, I needed a mouse for my Powerbook, so I dug out my Apple mouse.

I like the Apple mouse a lot. The feel is great. I don't miss the second button. I do, however, miss the scroll wheel a bit.

As for the one-button/two-button debate, I've done end-user tech support, and two- or three-button mice were just a horrible, terrible, abysmal idea to use by default. A huge number of people just can't figure the things out no matter how hard they try; it's probably the single most confusing thing new Windows users have to deal with. Of course, for those who can, they're fine. I don't think there's a Final Answer.

Posted by: Jeremy on May 6, 2003 11:11 PM

Who needs mice? Wacom tablets all the way. Stinking repetitive stress injuries.

Posted by: Neil on May 6, 2003 11:29 PM

Back when I worked at the computer lab we ended up having to tie down the 'pill' mice because people stole them. And I never had any problem using them. As for the PC people and their 2-button mice in that lab, I agree with Jeremy - half of the newbies have trouble. You tell them right-click and they think you mean click something on the right of the screen. They don't understand that the two buttons do somthing different. Although I must say that a scroll wheel would be nice (and for uControl's Fn Key to make the track pad a scroll wheel would be nice to have built in)

Posted by: Rincewind on May 7, 2003 1:31 AM

Used the puck mouse for quite some time with my old iMac, but switched to a Logitech eventually. When ordering a new flat-screen iMac, I ordered a new optical Logitech to go with it, and had it long before the iMac. I still used the "pill" for some time when it arrived, cos it IS beautiful, and doesnt feel too bad in my hand. But the lack of buttons, and more so a screen wheel, was unbareable - so the Logitech has been sitting on my desk for the most.

Posted by: Andreas Tellefsen on May 7, 2003 7:19 AM

I have the same one Jon Maddox has. The first generation Optical mouse. It seems to be getting dirty ad where my fingers click or sit the grain is rubbing smooth. It's funny.

Posted by: Jason Anderson on May 8, 2003 5:49 PM

Please note the new mouse and keyboard are distinctly referred to as 'Apple Mouse' and 'Apple Keyboard'...not 'Apple Pro Mouse' and 'Apple Pro Keyboard'...and they DO come with the eMac only so far.

Another note...Shake requires a three-button mouse. http://www.apple.com/shake/specs.html under system requirements for Mac OS clearly says:

- Three button mouse

So perhaps there is a new Pro Mouse on the way?

Posted by: Paul Blair on May 10, 2003 9:43 PM

One button mice are next to useless. How can you expect to be productive? I am a keyboard shortcut junkie, but I need my mouse controls.
Any pro comments about one-button mice can be automatically dismissed by multiple points against one-button mice.

Maybe this is what has hurt Apple all along?

No. It's definately their obsolete stockpiles of proprietiary hardware that have lower specifications than up to date industry standard components being produced. That may change when they move to Intel.

Posted by: Ryan on July 16, 2005 10:33 PM